Joseph OgrenE 97th St between Park Ave and Lexington AveHeart Four · Location 475 · Drawn July 2004Download photograph 1Download photograph 2Download photograph 3Download photograph 4Download photograph 5Download photograph 6Download photograph 7Download photograph 8Download photograph 9Download photograph 10Download photograph 11Download photograph 12Download photograph 13Download photograph 14Download photograph 15Download photograph 16Download photograph 17Show all 17 photographsVideo podcast0:00A five-story building has replaced a tree on East 97th Street between Lexington and Park.0:08Several years ago, we made a drawing on a wooden fence between the addresses for 108 and 112.0:16This wooden fence looked over a small manicured plot of land that featured a dominant tree0:24reaching its arms out over the sidewalk and in front of the buildings on either side of it.0:31That tree has now become a building.0:33And as of spring 2006, the empty plot of land shows the skeletal cinder block0:41and metal framed structure of the building to come sometime in the near future.0:46This is Joseph Ogren.0:50He was drawn in July of 2004.0:52[unclear]. His drawing is counting one person.0:57Well, the negative side is that the conclusion of this story is to be determined1:01because you really don't know what the public reaction is yet. And I'm sure that, you know,1:05as any good artist, you're considering your audience. And that's somewhat terrifying because1:10not only are you presenting a piece of artwork to the public, but you're presenting one with1:14tremendous weight and consequences and emotional baggage. And the subject matter, it makes1:20it touchy for lack of a better word and um i can imagine how terrifying that is terrifying is a1:26fair enough word so now we're back on park avenue but i mean does that get at it if i asked you what1:32is your relationship to the victims of september 11th what would you say you can't sum it up in1:37like a brief you know we've we've met the cousins of the people we've talked to the friends and1:42coworkers of the people. We've done our best to recognize how gargantuan a single life1:51can be and then try to imagine that number inflated by thousands of times.1:59[unclear] Jay and Lance, earned swimming scholarships to St. John's University. They2:06both ran the New York City Marathon twice. They both loved music and played guitar and2:12island and lived upstairs and downstairs from each other. We knew each other inside and out,2:18said Lance Ogren. The brothers took the exam to become firefighters and both scored well.2:23Even so, it was four years before there was an opening for Lance and Jay had to wait another two← Location 474Heart Four · Location 475Location 476 →
