Philip Martin RosenzweigCentral Park between W 86th St and W 87th StHeart Four · Location 353 · Drawn March 2004Download photograph 1Download photograph 2Download photograph 3Download photograph 4Download photograph 5Video podcast0:00This strongest location is on a triangular plot of land in Central Park.0:05North of the intersection of West Drive and 86th Street running through Central Park0:11are a series of walking paths, dirt paths, and bike paths.0:15If you get on the dirt path and start heading north towards the reservoir,0:20you find yourself on wide dirt paths.0:23They immediately fork and meet a third dirt road,0:26creating a triangle demarking a small collection of large trees, plants, rocks, and areas to carve0:36figures out of the mulch. When you reach the point of this triangle, head off to the right.0:42There's a large, large tree on your left, and then in about 25 feet, an area without a lot of trees0:49and plants, that's where the figure is drawn, on your left. This is Philip Martin Rosenzweig.0:54He was drawn in March of 2004.0:59His drawing is counting one person.1:03Before we were talking about the official memorial to the September 11th victims1:08that is still, I guess, being planned and executed in Lower Manhattan,1:12and in a way, you guys have been on kind of a parallel journey,1:15and I was wondering how closely you've been following that process1:19and thinking about it as you're working on your own.1:23It's sort of safe to say that everybody takes turns following it.1:26I think that's the best way of saying it.1:28There was two years in there where I was really religiously checking in on it, doing searches1:33for it online, talking to people about it and grocery store lines, anything I could1:38to sort of gauge the general perception about it.1:42Like in New York, you would just like talk to people in the grocery store?1:45Anywhere.1:45Like I was just wanting to know what people thought about it in regards to even its necessity.1:50I know it sounds like to start from the ground up and say, do we need it in the first place?1:56The answer maybe seemed like obviously yes, but it's always good to ask.2:00And then I have, I took a little break from it.2:05We all keep an eye out for it.2:07We all recognize our effort has a relationship to a need that a lot of people feel that the2:16memorial obviously aims to care for.2:20We recognize similarities, but we also recognize the vast differences.2:25I realize we don't represent a multi-million dollar nationally recognized and certified memorial.2:33However, we did realize that our efforts, unfunded if we just kept going and using the advantage of the Internet as a tool to actually get the information out to everybody,2:46would make sure that whatever memorializing or in memoriam types of acts we were taking would have international access.2:56I think in some ways we have been more attentive to the hundreds if not thousands of websites that were created in the immediate aftermath of September 11th that run the gamut from wonderful and respectful to pretty far out there and slightly disgusting.3:17that legions of people made online3:20and copy and pasted the list from the New York Times3:22and had some jingly things, or maybe not, you know?3:27But I think it's...3:28[unclear] so much to say about that.3:30We're more comparable to those websites3:32than we might be to a massive multi-million dollar construction effort.3:38It's like dogs paying attention to dogs3:39and elephants pay attention to elephants.3:41And occasionally the dog will look over at the elephant and be like,3:43my God, that's huge.3:45How interesting.3:47What were we saying?3:49But he found joy in fine chocolate and fast off-road drives in his new Porsche.3:55Often sitting shotgun in that midnight blue Boxster was Rosenzweig's 12-year-old son, Jeremy, the oldest of his two boys.← Location 352Heart Four · Location 353Location 354 →